<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" ><channel><title>Gun Safe Haven &#187; Cheap Gun Safes</title> <atom:link href="http://gunsafehaven.com/cheap-gun-safes/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://gunsafehaven.com</link> <description>Gun Storage, Arms, Defense, and General Babbling</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:01:54 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>Short Guide to Buying Cheap Gun Safes</title><link>http://gunsafehaven.com/cheap-gun-safes-protect-your-valuables-and-your-wallet/</link> <comments>http://gunsafehaven.com/cheap-gun-safes-protect-your-valuables-and-your-wallet/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Jack Burton</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Best Posts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Cheap Gun Safes]]></category> <category><![CDATA[centurion dlx]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheap gun safe]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheap gun safes for sale]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheap liberty safe]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gun safes for cheap]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liberty centurion 22]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://gunsafehaven.com/?p=3</guid> <description><![CDATA[So, you’re tired of storing your loaded guns unlocked under your bed.  Good.  I’m tired of you doing that too--it’s dangerous and ignorant.  You’re ready to step up your game, and get yourself a gun safe...but, you don’t want to spend any money, right?  Of course not--you’re not ignorant, you're just cheap...I get it.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gunsafes.com/Liberty-C20-Centurion-Gun-Safe.html?af=gunsafehaven" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-759" style="float: left; margin: 5px;" title="liberty_centurion_dlx" src="http://gunsafehaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/liberty_centurion_dlx.png" alt="Liberty Centurion DLX" width="193" height="303" /></a></p><table style="background-color: #ccffcc;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td>I&#8217;ve posted this link to the <a href="http://www.gunsafes.com/Liberty-C20-Centurion-Gun-Safe.html?af=gunsafehaven" target="_blank">Liberty Centurion DLX 20</a> (pictured to the left) at the top of this page, just in case you don&#8217;t feel like reading the following 2000 word guide, and coming to your own conclusion <img src='http://gunsafehaven.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Of all the cheap guns safes out there, Liberty&#8217;s entry model is my favorite, and for under $900 with shipping included (from the site in the link), I can endorse it with a clear conscience.  Now, onto the post&#8230;</td></tr></tbody></table><p>So, you’re tired of storing your loaded guns unlocked under your bed.  Good.  I’m tired of you doing that too&#8211;it’s dangerous and ignorant.  You’re ready to step up your game, and get yourself a gun safe&#8230;but, you don’t want to spend any money, right?  Of course not&#8211;you’re not ignorant, you&#8217;re just cheap&#8230;I get it.</p><p>I’ll cut to the chase and tell you the features you want to look for, but first, I need to draw a line in the sand.  As far as I’m concerned, a cheap gun safe is a residential security container that falls within the $700 to $1000 price range.  Unless you’re getting a heck of a deal on a used unit, anything less than $700 is almost guaranteed to be a total waste of money.  Anything more than than $1000, and you’re wandering into a different class (which is encouraged, if you have the means).</p><p>A thousand bucks isn’t going to buy anything stellar, but find a model that carries the following features, and you’ll be off to a great start:</p><p><strong>Lock:</strong></p><p>The lock is the most important piece of a gun safe, whether it’s $1000 or $10000.  I strongly recommend a combination lock over its electronic counterpart.  Yes, it takes a little longer to open up, and frankly, it isn’t as cool, but in the long run, maintenance and reliability are going to work in your favor.  Besides, in the said price range, you might not find a safe dawning a half-decent electronic lock anyway.</p><p>The are tons of crap locks on the market.  Avoid these by ensuring that the safe you purchase has a combination lock with a UL Group II listing or higher.  I’ll spare the technical details in this post, but the bottom line is, it’s going to work forever with little maintenance.  While popular brands, like Kaba and La Gard, have nice offerings, I’m partial to Sargeant and Greenleaf products&#8211;hard to go wrong there.</p><table style="background-color: #ffccff;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><em><strong>Bottom line:</strong> Get a safe with an S&amp;G UL Group II listed combination lock.</em></td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Body:</strong></p><p>When shopping for gun safes, you’ll find that most of your money goes into the steel.  I’m going to recklessly throw out a blanket statement, and say that the thicker the steel, the more costly the safe.  Having said that, when you’re going cheap, you’re going thin.  With your budget, you’re going to be in the market for a model touting 12 to 10 gauge steel (10 is thicker).</p><p>That’s not a lot of girth&#8211;a seasoned lumberjack with a sharp axe could tear into a 12 gauge safe wall within a few minutes.  Having said that, all is not lost.  First off, while professional attacks on the body of the safe (ie &#8211; the walls) aren’t totally unheard of, they aren’t very common.  Careful placement of your safe can stifle many of these attacks, anyway (mount it in a corner, don&#8217;t leave sledge hammers in plain sight, etc&#8230;).</p><p>Secondly, don’t be easily star-struck by the size and number of bolts around the door.  A lot of sub-par manufacturers will throw a dozen or so one-inch shiny bolts on the perimeter to create the illusion that the safe is secure, and “pry-proof”.  Don’t get me wrong, well-placed bolt coverage, coupled with solid linkage can be crucial in securing your contents, but if the rest of the safe is lacking, the bolts might as well be Christmas lights.</p><p>Lastly, what you’re missing in thickness and bolt coverage, you can make up in sound construction.  Avoid stitch-welded assembly and chinsy door framing.  You’re not doing yourself any good buying a safe with thick steel walls, assembled with duct tape and bubblegum.  Hyperbole aside, find a unit with solid welding and strong framing, and you’ll be well ahead of the curve.  A unit with gaping seams has weak integrity, and weak integrity invites destruction, whether it be from a house fire or the hands of a thief.</p><p>Without a trained eye, it can be difficult to spot quality versus shoddy craftsmanship.  If there’s a product you’re unsure about, ask a local safe dealer, or contact me&#8211;I’ll do my best to get you an answer ASAP.</p><table style="border-width: 0px; background-color: #ffccff;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><em><strong>Bottom line: </strong>Find a model with seamless/continuous welded construction, and at least 12 gauge steel.</em></td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Fire protection:</strong></p><p>Most likely, even a cheap gun safe is going to offer <em>some</em> level of protection against fire.  Fire protection gets very tricky in the gun safe industry.  A true “fire safe” will normally carry a UL rating, branding it as a unit that has been harshly tested, and will almost certainly withstand the blaze for the time advertised.  Unfortunately for you, a UL-rated fire safe big enough to house a gun collection is going to be 10-fold out of your price range (and mine).</p><p>But don&#8217;t feel bad&#8211;UL fire-rated gun safes, as far as I know, don’t actually exist, at least through mainstream availability.  If the guy at the gun store tries to tell you that the $800 safe he’s selling is UL rated for fires, it’s b.s.  What’s likely the case is that the unit he’s hocking is a UL-listed RSC that <em>also</em> has an alleged fire rating, <em>or</em> the unit is lined with UL-rated fireboard&#8230;regardless, I can assure you it’s <em>not</em> a commercial-grade, UL-rated fire safe.  This, however, doesn’t mean that your gun collection is going to be DOA when the firemen show up.  Most quality cheap gun safes (bit of a paradox there) are going to buy you 30 minutes in a typical house fire.</p><p>While the bulk of manufacturers don’t actually test their safes in house fires (a lot of gun safe fire ratings are nothing more than educated guesses), you’re doing yourself an injustice by neglecting to get at least a 30-minute listed rating.  You’re not going to find cast insulation or ceramic wool lining for this price; just make sure it’s seamlessly constructed (as discussed earlier), and has fireboard installed in <em>both</em> the walls and the ceiling.</p><table style="background-color: #ffccff;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><em><strong>Bottom line: </strong>Understand the limitations of fire-&#8221;proofing&#8221; on a cheap gun safe, but find one with tight construction and fire board coverage top-to-bottom.</em></td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Warranty:</strong></p><p>Believe it or not, you can spend less than $1000 and still get a safe with a lifetime warranty.  In fact, I’d go as far as saying, don’t get a safe if it doesn’t have a lifetime warranty&#8211;there are too many others out there that do.</p><p>The most important thing to note here is that you <span style="text-decoration: underline;">must read the fine print</span>.  Legally speaking, “lifetime warranty” can mean a million different things.  Buy a safe from a manufacturer who will not only replace your safe in the event of a fire or burglary, but will cover associated freight and maintenance charges as well.  Here’s a <a href="http://gunsafehaven.com/safe-warranty/" target="_blank">list of safe manufacturer warranties</a> if you want to dig deeper.</p><table style="background-color: #ffccff;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><em><strong>Bottom line: </strong>Don&#8217;t settle for anything less than a lifetime warranty, but understand the particulars before you buy.</em></td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Country of origin:</strong></p><p>Like so many other goods, China churns out the largest number of imported safes to the United States, and while I’d love to state otherwise, not every single one of them sucks; <a href="http://www.gunsafes.com/Bighorn-Gun-Safe-6022ML.html?af=gunsafehaven" target="_blank">Big Horn</a>, for instance, is a pretty decent China-born budget brand.</p><p>The thing that Chinese manufacturers have going for them is that they put a lot of effort into to copying American design and craftsmanship.  On the other hand, what they don’t have going for them is that they rarely pull it off.  Long-story-short, the quality of the materials is often sub par, and construction is inconsistent.  If you can spend the same amount of money and get a decent American-made safe, why buy an import?  That’s all I’m going to say about it in this post, but if you want more information on import versus domestic, check out this post I made a while back: <a title="Are American Gun Safes Really the Best?  Sturdy Safe Owner, Terry Pratt Helps With the Answer" href="http://gunsafehaven.com/american-gun-safe-sturdy-gun-safe/" target="_blank"><em>Are American Gun Safes Really the Best?</em></a></p><table style="background-color: #ffccff;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><strong><em>Bottom line: </em></strong><em>While not all imports are lousy, there&#8217;s no good reason not to buy an American manufactured safe.</em></td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Other stuff:</strong></p><p>Buying on the cheap doesn’t mean you have to completely abandon security.  In addition to heeding my recommendations above, there are a few <em>little</em> things you can do to ensure you get the most out of your investment.</p><p>First of all, anchor your safe down.  If the model you’re looking at doesn’t have pre-drilled holes, I wouldn’t even consider it for purchase.</p><p>Do you have to bolt it down if it’s downstairs in the basement?  Yes.  Do you have to bolt it down if it weighs 2000 lbs fully loaded?  Yes.</p><p>No matter what the circumstances, take the extra time and anchor it down.</p><p>If you aren’t sure the best way to anchor it, or what materials to use, ask the manufacturer.  They’ll be more than happy to help you out here&#8211;many of them even offer inexpensive kits to help take out the guess work.</p><p>Even a one ton safe isn’t terribly difficult to tip over, and once it’s on its back, the crooks have a perfect opportunity to get the leverage they need to pry it open.  And if they can’t get it open in your house, they can scoot it out the door, load it in a van, and try it on their own time.  Like it or not, some crooks are pretty darn smart.</p><p>Which brings me to my next point&#8230;</p><p>Don’t give them a reason to break into your house in the first place!  Yes, sometimes being a victim of burglary is unavoidable, but there are very easy things you can do to stack the odds in you favor.  For one, don’t talk about what you have to anyone you don’t absolutely trust.  The dude you just met at the range might not break into your house, but he may have a shady friend who’d be glad to do it.  Put your pride to the side, and keep your mouth shut (that’s right&#8211;don’t create a website devoted to showing off your toys <img src='http://gunsafehaven.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p><p>Also, to the best of your abilities, keep the safe out of sight.  You don’t have to build false walls and hidden rooms (if you were that devoted, you’d be spending more than $1000), but keep it away from windows, and places where the pizza man can see it.  It’s not too difficult&#8211;just do your best to avoid advertising that you have a treasure chest in your home.</p><p>Lastly, I’d recommend investing a little bit in basic home security.  I had a bit of fun a few months ago building a budget DIY <a title="Home Defense My Way – Cheap and Easy" href="http://gunsafehaven.com/home-defense/" target="_blank">home defense</a> package, which included a monitored security system (I went with <a href="http://simplisafe.com/wireless-security-systems#aid=1194" target="_blank">Simplisafe</a>, and have been very satisfied with the setup).  If you’re too cheap to go for the real thing, at least fake it.  Get some alarm stickers, put a smoke detector above the safe (hardcore riff-raff use power tools, which can create a lot of heat and smoke), you may even want to consider a dummy camera.  The key is to make stealing your valuables as inconvenient as possible.  I wrote this post a while back, if you want to supplement with a few more ideas: <a href="http://gunsafehaven.com/where-to-put-your-gun-safe/" target="_blank"><em>Where to Put Your Safe</em></a>.</p><table style="background-color: #ffccff;" border="0"><tbody><tr><td><strong><em>Bottom Line: </em></strong><em>Anchor your safe, keep it out of the open, heed basic OPSEC principles, and don&#8217;t be afraid to supplement your investment with a security system.</em></td></tr></tbody></table><p><strong>Recommended unit:</strong></p><p>The question I probably get asked the most in emails is something to the effect of, “what’s the best safe for under $1000?”.  While I couldn’t wholeheartedly claim any model to be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the best cheap gun safe on the market</span>&#8211;there are a few decent models out there&#8211;I could very comfortably recommend to nearly anyone Liberty Safe’s entry level unit, the Centurion DLX-20 (22 gun capacity).  It’s also made in the good ole’ US (to my knowledge, all of Liberty’s UL RSC listed safes are).</p><p>It has an S&amp;G 6147 UL Group II combination lock.  It’s built with nearly seamless construction.  It also includes fireboard all around, giving it a respectable (for the price) 30 minute fire rating (at 1200 degrees Fahrenheit).  It only has bolt coverage on two sides of the door, and with 12 gauge steel, the body is a little thin, but again, 10 gauge is probably going to be the thickest steel you&#8217;ll find in this price range; at that point, you’re splitting hairs (literally&#8211;the difference is a fraction of an inch).</p><p>Liberty has perhaps the best lifetime warranty, and renown customer service record of any of their main competition, and I’d feel comfortable recommending this safe to anyone wanting to lock up their firearms for under a grand.  I helped my father-in-law pick one out, and he still lets me make babies with his daughter&#8230;now that’s an endorsement!</p><p>Regardless of the cheap safe you decide to roll with, make sure you don’t rush into it.  Ask tons of questions, hold the dealer and the manufacturer accountable when they answer them, and feel free to hit me up if you need any help in the process&#8211;if I don’t know the answer, I’ll do my best to get you one.</p><p>Stay safe!</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://gunsafehaven.com/cheap-gun-safes-protect-your-valuables-and-your-wallet/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>2</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Just Go Online To Find Gun Safes For Sale</title><link>http://gunsafehaven.com/gun-safes-for-sale/</link> <comments>http://gunsafehaven.com/gun-safes-for-sale/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:29:09 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Jack Burton</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Cheap Gun Safes]]></category> <category><![CDATA[browning gun safes for sale]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheap gun safes for sale]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gun safe for sale]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gun safes for sale]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://gunsafehaven.com/?p=48</guid> <description><![CDATA[For you folks looking to pick up a safe or a cabinet right now, I just recently assembled a nice healthy list deals over on Gun Safe Haven's new Gun Safes For Sale section.  I tried to break it down into logical categories, and give as much helpful feedback on this products as I could without laying down to much of a drowning rant...which is exactly what I'm doing right now.  Anyways, check it out, and let me know what you think!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For you folks looking to pick up a safe or a cabinet right now, I just recently assembled a nice healthy list deals over on Gun Safe Haven&#8217;s new <a href="http://gunsafehaven.com/gun-cabinets-and-gun-safes-for-sale"><em>Gun Safes For Sale</em></a> section.  I tried to break it down into logical categories, and give as much helpful feedback on this products as I could without laying down to much of a drowning rant&#8230;which is exactly what I&#8217;m doing right now.  Anyways, check it out, and let me know what you think!</p><p>Purchasing a gun safe is a significant investment, especially if you&#8217;re serious about the security of your valuables and the quality of the safe.  Luckily, you don&#8217;t have to look terribly hard to find a wide assortment of gun safes for sale.  Here in the States, you can shop for groceries, and a place to house your firearms all in one place.  Walmart, Target, Sam&#8217;s Club&#8230;all of these super stores sell gun safes.  Although it&#8217;s not a bad idea to keep your eyes on the newspaper to see if any of the aforementioned giants are offering any good deals, as far as brick and mortar shops go, you&#8217;re probably better off buying your safe from a place that specializes in selling them &#8211; like your local gun and shooting supplies store.<span id="more-48"></span></p><p>The selection is usually better, a knowledgeable staff is at your disposal, and installation and delivery agreements are generally streamlined into the ordering process.  There&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with purchasing a gun safe from a local store.  That said, I personally prefer to do everything online.  The only thing that I haven&#8217;t figured out how to confidently order online is a pair of pants that fit me.  Everything else, including gun safes, are generally cheaper and easier to order through the Internet.</p><p><img style="border: 0pt none; float: left; padding-right: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px;" title="liberty-presidential" src="http://gunsafehaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/liberty-presidential.jpg" alt="liberty-presidential" width="168" height="282" />Last year, I found a terrific resource for purchasing gun safes online, <a href="http://gunsafes.com" target="_blank">the site</a> is aptly named Gunsafes.com.  There are hundreds of sites out there that offer great deals on gun safes, but the process of purchasing the one that you need isn&#8217;t always easy.  Gunsafes.com puts everything that you need right there in one place.  They have a huge variety of everything from beautiful Scout solid oak gun cabinets, to biometric personal safes, to a beastly Liberty Presidential gun safe for sale.  In addition to their expansive selection, they also offer industry competitive pricing, not to mention, free shipping on most orders.  Gunsafes.com is a huge supplier of <a href="http://www.gunsafes.com/Liberty-Gun-Safes.html?af=gunsafehaven">Liberty gun safes</a> at a great deal.</p><p>The downside to buying online, when compared to buying brick and mortar, is that you have to wait for your package to arrive.  Shipping generally takes 2-3 weeks with gunsafes.com, and up to 6-8 weeks for very large, or custom orders.  However, as long as you&#8217;re not in some kind of major hurry to receive your product, the wait is worth it.</p><p>I&#8217;ve found their site to be a bit different that other online stores.  For one, their service is actually very good.  Though they don&#8217;t have a price matching policy set in stone, they&#8217;re willing to work with you on giving you the best deal available.  The same rule applies to bulk orders.  Put in a request, and you can have a rep on the phone with you on the same day.  Secondly, they offer a wealth of gun safe information.  The day I found their site, I was browsing the Internet, trying to find some Browning gun safes for sale.  When I found Gunsafes.com, I didn&#8217;t have to search any further.  Not only do they have a ridiculous supply of Browning safes at great prices, but they offer all the information you need to make the right decision with your order.  Of course, Browning, isn&#8217;t the only brand they offer.  They currently carry products from 20 industry leading gun safe manufacturers, as well as an incredible amount of information on each one of them.  Even if it&#8217;s your first time shopping for a gun safe, you&#8217;ll get the education you need in no time.</p><p>Unfortunately, they don&#8217;t ship orders outside of the United States, but if you&#8217;re lucky enough to live in this fine country, you&#8217;ll be in good shape.  I mentioned earlier that their shipping charge is free, but they offer some additional &#8220;White Glove&#8221; services worthy of consideration.  At the Platinum level, your gun safe will be delivered, and as long as it&#8217;s under 900 lbs, they&#8217;ll take it up two flights of stairs for you, unbox it, and assemble it.  If moving a 900 pound steel box up a flight of stairs isn&#8217;t something you want to screw around with, white glove services are something you should really think about.  You can&#8217;t beat this level of service for the price.</p><p>Well, I&#8217;ve rambled on long enough about this site, but if you&#8217;re truly serious about finding a large selection and ample information on <a href="http://gunsafehaven.com/cheap-gun-safes-protect-your-valuables-and-your-wallet/">cheap gun safes for sale</a>, you need to check out Gunsafes.com.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://gunsafehaven.com/gun-safes-for-sale/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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